Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

04/14/2018 04:15 PM House JUDICIARY

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04:22:19 PM Start
04:22:39 PM SJR4
04:28:46 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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-- Delayed to 15 Minutes Following Session --
-- Continued from 04/13/18 --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SJR 4 AK LEGALLY ACQUIRED IVORY USE EXEMPTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSJR 4(RES) Out of Committee
         SJR  4-AK LEGALLY ACQUIRED IVORY USE EXEMPTION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:22:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN announced  that  only order  of  business would  be                                                               
SENATE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO. 4,  Urging the  Alaska Congressional                                                               
delegation to  introduce bills  to provide  for the  exemption of                                                               
legally acquired  walrus, mammoth,  and mastodon ivory  from laws                                                               
that ban the sale, use, and possession of ivory.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:23:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  moved to  adopt Amendment 1,  labeled 30-                                                               
LS0109\U.2, Bannister, 4/14/18, which read as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "and"                                                                                                        
          Following "mastodon":                                                                                               
          Insert ", and other"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "African elephant"                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete the first occurrence of "and"                                                                                  
          Following "mastodon":                                                                                                 
          Insert ", and other"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete the first occurrence of "and"                                                                                  
          Following "mastodon":                                                                                                 
          Insert ", and other"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "African elephant"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete the first occurrence of "and"                                                                                  
          Following "mastodon":                                                                                                 
          Insert ", and other"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert "African elephant"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS objected.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN explained that  this legislation refers to                                                               
a number of legally acquired  types of ivory (audio difficulties)                                                               
legally  acquired  fossilized  ivory  which  are  any  number  of                                                               
different types of  ivory that is currently used  to legally make                                                               
handcrafts, jewelry,  and other  artwork.  United  States Senator                                                               
Dan  Sullivan introduced  S. 1965  [115th Congress,  1st Session]                                                               
which mentions walrus  and whales, and "what was  not spelled out                                                               
in  the resolution  previously  was some  of  the whale  produced                                                               
ivory."  He  advised that the change  mentioned African elephants                                                               
consistently, which  was mentioned in the  resolution and instead                                                               
of limiting only  the three types of ivory, it  also includes the                                                               
other types of ivory that are  indirectly mentioned.  A number of                                                               
different  types  of  ivory  can  legally  be  found  in  Alaska,                                                               
including  elk ivory,  he  advised.   For  consistency, he  said,                                                               
"we've made it  broad enough to include that type  of legal ivory                                                               
as well."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONALD  OLSON, Alaska State Legislature,  advised that he                                                               
does not concur with Amendment 1.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS maintained his objection.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:26:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   noted  that  the   resolution  contains                                                               
references  to  fossilized ivory,  but  it  is inconsistent,  and                                                               
there is  reference to  African elephant ivory  and that  is also                                                               
inconsistent.   He  noted that  other  legally available  Alaskan                                                               
ivory is not mentioned which  is used for crafting purposes, such                                                               
as elk  ivory.   In order  to protect the  rights of  Alaskans to                                                               
continue to  use other  legal ivory  and not  be caught  up under                                                               
other  states  that  are  banning  all  ivory  for  reasons  that                                                               
probably do not apply to Alaska, but will affect Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  maintained objection  on Amendment                                                               
1.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:26:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representative Eastman  voted in                                                               
favor of  the adoption of  Amendment 1.   Representatives Stutes,                                                               
LeDoux, Kreiss-Tomkins, and Claman  voted against it.  Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 1 failed to be adopted by a vote of 1-4.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:27:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  moved to  report  CS  for SJR  4,                                                               
labeled   30-LS0109\U   out    of   committee   with   individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.  There being                                                                 
no objection, CSSJR 4(RES) moved from the House Judiciary                                                                       
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             

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